Fixpoint

2023-05-13

Grand reopening of #jwrd, the IRC channel

Filed under: JWRD, Networks, News — Jacob Welsh @ 00:31

This story, or at least this chapter of the longer story, is finally getting a happy ending.

Our forum for real-time communication is once again open to the public for participation rather than merely reading. Its messages are dutifully carried, using the classic Internet Relay Chat protocol, by our own IRC network which consists of a single server.(i)

Starting off on the governance side, the purpose of the channel, as currently understood, is to provide a human-friendly space for reliable communications and discussion of what matters. The first rule of #jwrd is that there are no rules. What you can get away with will depend on who you are, in our estimation as owners and operators of the channel, server and network. Indeed it's quite likely that being able to speak at all will come to depend on being a somebody or else having a somebody to temporarily grant you voice.

Two main changes made this possible. First, I worked out how to promote myself to server operator status and use this to retake channel ownership after an interruption. Second, I moved the software to its own segregated system (now running on Gales Linux, yes) to mitigate the risks of whatever vulnerabilities may be lurking in the adopted code.(ii) I also looked into a change of server software from ngircd to ircd-ratbox and concluded for a third time, after ever closer levels of inspection, that "ratsnest" was indeed the more fitting name for the latter and its stinking family,(iii) and that I was quite justified in sticking with what was already working fine for my purposes.

There are still none of the traditional nickname and channel registration services (NickServ and ChanServ), and I don't intend to implement them either, based as they were on clear-text passwords. If you wish to register an IRC name - which would certainly be a good idea if you're going to be around - post a comment here with the requested nick and GPG pubkey (as per gpg --export --armor YOUR_KEY_ID). Then when some clown comes along and steals your nick, you can use a temporary one to join and complain about it, at which point an encrypted challenge to your registered key will provide the conclusive test of identity. Registrations will mostly be granted on a first come, first served basis, but we may recognize some prior claims of the elite. This amounts to a hand-cranked, embryonic stage of a new JWRD-centric Web of Trust, providing support for efficient evaluation of text found both in the channel and beyond, based on its source.

Moving on to the technical details of how to connect : you will naturally need an IRC client. Many are available, depending on your chosen computing environment. Known to work are yrc, irssi, and Hexchat (for the GUI-bound).(iv) Next you will need to configure it to define the new network. Generally you can label this any way you like (I'd suggest "jwrd"). For the server hostname or address, enter the direct IP address: 116.202.223.107, port number 6667. Set your nick and/or username as desired, save your configuration, and connect; you should see a bunch of welcome messages from the server. Then simply join the channel, #jwrd (typically by typing: /join #jwrd) and say hello! Note that you will typically need to re-connect and re-join each time you restart your client.

Regarding future development directions for this infrastructure, it's unclear as yet but the general outlook for the mid to long term is to phase out IRC with its many problems and dead scene, and embrace Eulora2 chat with its perhaps equally many but more interesting problems, active developer and coolness factor.

  1. It's running ngircd-24, as it has been all along, hiding in plain sight on the same address as our email server. The /etc/ngircd.conf sections of most general interest are as follows:

    [Limits]
    	MaxConnectionsIP = 0
    	MaxJoins = 0
    	MaxNickLength = 31 # 32 including NULL is hardcoded max
    	PongTimeout = 240
    [Options]
    	CloakHost = %x
    	CloakHostSalt = <fresh long random string>
    	DNS = no
    	DefaultUserModes = i # invisible - connected users won't show in NAMES listings to non-channel-members
    	OperCanUseMode = yes # allow server ops to retake channels
    

    [^]

  2. For address scarcity reasons there are some iptables redirection shenanigans in play, which is why if you were already connected you haven't needed to change anything. But this is subject to change at some point. [^]
  3. jfw: otherwise, ircd-ratbox coad is making me want to throw things.
    jfw: (not just the ratbox fork, its daddy ircd-hybrid looked quite similar)
    jfw: it gives the sense of accretion with no particular design, "ooh, this seems to work" without comprehension of meaning
    jfw: specifically atm I'm seeing clueless signal handler code, which could deadlock requiring kill -9
    jfw: duplication of log messages to console when in foreground mode, unless the log file ever had an error in which case it goes nowhere
    jfw: signal handler set global flags not declared volatile

    jfw: anyway the ratbox status is I got through the config, and got it to pass its config test and start up after some adjustments. it does have this suspiciously dovecot-like 'modules' setup where it expects to dynamically load, as yet unclear if the modules will thus work at all or whether it matters
    jfw: oh yeah, ratbox's bans database, for which they imported sqlite somewhere along the way? I checked the schema: no indexes, at all, or references or anything. might as well be scraping flat / plain text files, as I gather it started out.

    dorion: thanks for the ratbox update. not exactly surprising. my high level thought is, how clean/secure/sane does it actually have to be and what are the consequences of the pain it might give us ? we're running a small chat server, it's small for now and it's IRC for now. it'll mainly grow at first by us promoting it/inviting friends. someone hostile could show up and try to fuck with us, how much they cost us depends on who they are, what they're capable of. could they ruin an afternoon, maybe. is there sensitive data there that'd cost us if they accessed it ? not likely.
    dorion: if they fuck with us bad enough, well, great example for everyone in our network why they should get into e2. [^]

  4. There are mobile clients too, which work in a pinch, but the fluid and intermittent network presence of such Devices tends to make a poor fit for IRC's needy and transient approach to connection maintenance. In concrete terms, you're likely to bug people through excessive disconnect/rejoin spam and not being reliably reachable. [^]

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  1. > If you wish to register an IRC name - which would certainly be a good idea if you're going to be around - post a comment here with the requested nick and GPG pubkey

    I'll get the party started myself.

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    Comment by Jacob Welsh — 2023-05-27 @ 19:56

  2. Name : dorion


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    Comment by Robinson Dorion — 2023-06-01 @ 14:40

  3. [...] civilized world starts here, you see, and the time to become a somebody is now. Before it's too late, because if you haven't noticed under all the new paint jobs, it quite [...]

    Pingback by JWRD Dovecot initial release, aka version 2.4.0 « Fixpoint — 2023-06-26 @ 04:40

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    Comment by Blake Eustaquio — 2023-07-05 @ 16:33

  5. [...] So do your part and bring that second closer to our present, will yee ? In the short-term, buy Bitcoin and hold it in an address that starts with a 1, get the fuck off google and don't look back. Come talk to me on IRC. [...]

    Pingback by Hey, you hipster morons, why do you want thinking people to hate you so much they'd not piss down your throat if your guts were on fire ? on Dorion Mode - A blog by Robinson Dorion. — 2023-07-18 @ 03:42

  6. [...] definition, "a word to be used when leaving the scene." [^]Referring to Hubbard. [^]aren't* [^]Published here. [^]Didn't get around to that yet, but I supposed I'm making steps in that direction with this [...]

    Pingback by The root of our dispute is I value substance over form and thus manage to learn and grow, while you cling to form and, thus, dwell in mediocrity. on Dorion Mode - A blog by Robinson Dorion. — 2023-07-28 @ 13:47

  7. [...] servers that users can communicate through, even if they're not connected to the same server. JWRD runs an IRC server and implemented and maintains and IRC client called yrc. It's worth noting that while the IRC [...]

    Pingback by Chat analysis : the ever enduring IRC on Dorion Mode - A blog by Robinson Dorion. — 2023-08-02 @ 17:47

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    Comment by Nilson Souto — 2023-08-04 @ 01:42

  9. /join #jwrd Hello it is Luz .

    Comment by Luz Fung — 2024-05-28 @ 15:44

  10. @Luz Fung: Getting there but see http://jfxpt.com/#comment-2729

    Comment by Jacob Welsh — 2024-05-28 @ 22:38

  11. This thread is now closed regarding name and key registrations as our very own channel bot is now handling it, along with voice management, ratings and other features that continue to roll out.

    Just join the channel and ask if you need a pointer.

    Thank you to the pioneers, and I have imported your keys.

    Comment by Jacob Welsh — 2024-06-10 @ 04:35

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