Fixpoint

Visible activity is really picking up lately in Eulora 2. One of many facets there is the level of conversations available to those who find their way in. I have little left to add on this one besides my endorsement and blog formatting for ease of reading and reference.

Felicia Solecrimp: I have being going to an event of Artificial intelligence they were talking about the article of dead internet⁽ⁱ⁾ it disturbs me but i feel somehow is true that it already happen with all ai and also i wonder if there still a goverment because i feel democracy now is datacracy instead and how big corporations are taking data from social media and other information about ourselves on internet for commercial uses

Felicia Solecrimp: and also how the ex ceo executive of google mo gadawrth⁽ⁱⁱ⁾ says that well we are not going to need to work and the universal rent is going to exist we are going to have more spare time for extra activities and other activities or task are going to be done by agents⁽ⁱⁱⁱ⁾

Felicia Solecrimp: does eulora work with game theory?

Diana Coman: the AI talking of "dead internet" is like the thief crying "theft!", quite something indeed, even if possibly not for the reasons they imagine.

Diana Coman: Felicia Solecrimp, people talking at events is still ...people talking, you know? The more important thing is what people are *doing* first of all and in particular for yourself as for any other individual what you yourself (or said individual) are (is) doing. If you keep hoping to make sense of the world by what the most prominent/loud/otherwise promoted voices are saying, you'll likely only get confused - for one thing, why exactly do you imagine that they are saying something specifically *for your benefit* as such?
Diana Coman: saying something is just about as easy as it gets, saying something relevant when no specific target or consequences are anyway enforced is still just as easy as it gets and otherwise for you as a person it's really all just noise unless you are somehow directly involved with the *doing* that supports whatever specific vision there might be.

Diana Coman: as for "does eulora use game theory?" question, I can only say that eulora uses what it needs at any given time. Yes, I am aware of game theory. Also aware of and even using at different times for different reasons a whole lot of other things but chasing whatever is the push of the day is only a recipe for getting nowhere. Poor old fables had it with that chasing after two rabbits and getting none, only meanwhile one can certainly chase after any number of fashions and in any number of domains, so that it even *feels* like one is getting somewhere (must be, with all that chasing, right?) only to be forever just chasing about.

Diana Coman: fwiw for the "internet is dead", what they mean is that they (google actually started it, if anything, go them, what an achievement) managed indeed to turn the public part of it into exactly what the generic "public" always ends up with - as little value as possible, close to zero, that one can anyway get at only at a large as possible close to infinity cost to themselves. But people who can and do things simply move out of it and to their own places and thus yes, I expect there are or even increasingly going to be more "private internet" places rather than what "the public has come to expect". I suppose in a way this is yet another thing that e2 is - a private place on the internet. So yes, *their* internet has died and they are in a position to say it too since they killed it, certainly. So what of it exactly?

Diana Coman: as for universal rent and so on, good god, I suppose there will even be something of the sort, essentially ~everyone being too poor to even afford to be something other than...reared, as it were. Because if one imagines that universal income/rent/whatever-handout is somehow fundamentally different from what any farmed animals get, one is in for some surprises.
Diana Coman: sure, the kept cows, hens, pigs, whatevers "have more spare time for extra activities", definitely.
Diana Coman: just as long as they keep within their pens, within their alloted time frames and if they happen to actually produce anything of any use promptly hand it over, too.

Diana Coman: on the game theory, I guess I should better add given what a darling it's been for such a long time for all who chase that particular chimera of some model neatly explaining people away (economics in particular, it seems to me) that it's fundamental assumption is that the agents involved are *rational*. Which is a much bigger assumption than it seems and when people are involved it holds about as well as a sieve holds water really.
Diana Coman: this being said, players are of course free to use whatever they want and that certainly includes game theory, why not. For all I care, it can include magic rites and lucky charms, I don't see any problem with any of it. So in this sense, eulora "works" with anything and everything, game theory too - if it works for you as a player, then it works and that's all there is to it.

Diana Coman: Felicia Solecrimp, on a slightly different topic but possibly of more direct use to you, see if this clarification on what feelings are and what they are or aren't for can be applied. What one feels about the world around is a very poor way to go about trying to evaluate what one hears or trying to figure things out.

1. I think she means the topic of Dead Internet Theory which I'd mentioned to her before. You know, like all those "blogs" around that don't take comments because the spam now vastly outweighs the human submissions and even those are mostly dubious at best. Or how the humans increasingly need to prove themselves to a bot to even read things, much less get to any sources or structured data, because most of the traffic is now just other bots looking for any scrap of human-created value they can steal. [^]
2. She means ex-CBO of Google X, their secret tin women division, Mo Gawdat. For all the difference it would make, not like he has any WoT-verifiable existence. [^]
3. In current SillyCon Valley speak, a chatbot with an API client is what passes for an "agent". Taser and ray gun hookups optional. [^]