Day changed to 2025-09-02
[00:14] bob: I chose Bob for Built On Bitcoin! Is that sexy?
[13:43] dorion: hello bob, welcome. a name is what you make of it, innit ?
[15:32] bob: Correct
[15:40] dorion: bob, the first step is to make a key and register it with wotbot.
[15:40] dorion: !w help
[15:40] wotbot: Available commands: hi, help, register, up, down, key, rate, unrate, rated
Day changed to 2025-09-03
[15:39] nekoluce: hey
[15:39] nekoluce: good morning
Day changed to 2025-09-12
[23:09] jfw: ftr, both our public bitcoin nodes fell over now from overflow of disk space; looks like the debug logging finally insists on some attention along with grep.
Day changed to 2025-09-13
[01:01] jfw: for added conspiratorial fodder, the younger node failed around 22 UTC of Sept. 11. The older one, 17 UTC of Sept. 9. For some time prior, I was seeing more than usual long stuck spells with no new blocks relayed.
[08:32] lru: there is a big controversy over op_return size and the risk of arbitrary data in the blockchain... I assume your versions filter strictly
[13:19] jfw: yeah, that's the surface narrative, which doesn't make a lot of sense. http://jfxpt.com/2025/jwrd-logs-for-Aug-2025/#14781
[13:19] sourcerer: 2025-08-19 23:56:42 (#jwrd) jfw: apparently there are >1 people for whom soft-forking to force a stealth block size increase to the detriment of security, reliability, sanity, consensus, etc. is fine and dandy, but then *using* this capability for anything other than what they had in mind to use it for is evil spamming that's going to kill bitcoin
[13:28] jfw: I guess most likely one of those trendy layer-N things is generating a lot of nonstandard transactions that happen to tickle some overly verbose log messages
[13:30] jfw: though that doesn't explain who's trying to promote luke-jr from laughingstock to jesus
[17:08] dorion: knots is the proverbial tv raft.
[22:10] lru: I wondered if "Luke Dashjr" was the same as "luke-jr" I'd read about on trilema
[23:59] jfw: the same
Day changed to 2025-09-19
[23:43] whaack: !e view-height
[23:43] btcexplorer: block_height: 914921
[23:43] btcexplorer: mins_since_last_block: 5216
[23:43] whaack: recently restarted bdexplorer, should be caught up in 1-2 days
[23:50] whaack: bitcoind seems stuck tho, so we'll see later
Day changed to 2025-09-22
[00:17] jfw: !e view-height
[00:17] btcexplorer: block_height: 915121
[00:17] btcexplorer: mins_since_last_block: 6265
[17:52] dorion: !e view-height
[17:52] btcexplorer: block_height: 915144
[17:52] btcexplorer: mins_since_last_block: 7042
[17:52] dorion: still some 800+ blocks behind other sources.
[18:00] jfw: my home node got synced up yest but then filled up debug.log too. will look into patching that sooner rather than later.
[20:59] dorion: alright, sounds good.
[22:23] whaack_: restarted my node again, with flags:
[22:23] whaack_: bitcoind -daemon -permissive -logtimestamps -myip=205.134.172.28 -addnode=205.134.172.27 -addnode=54.39.156.17 -addnode=143.202.160.10 -addnode=208.94.240.42 -addnode=85.167.101.64 -addnode=94.176.238.102 -addnode=205.134.172.6 -addnode=45.11.57.212 -verifyall &
[22:24] whaack_: !e view-height
[22:24] btcexplorer: block_height: 915210
[22:24] btcexplorer: mins_since_last_block: 6651
[22:24] whaack_: looks like we're moving forward again
Day changed to 2025-09-24
[15:25] whaack: !e view-height
[15:25] btcexplorer: block_height: 915529
[15:25] btcexplorer: mins_since_last_block: 6423
[15:25] whaack: dorion: http://ztkfg.com/2025/09/philadelphia-bridge-nationals-recap/
[15:27] whaack: this guy has a nice bridge site http://www.rpbridge.net/, with https disabled! http://www.rpbridge.net/8q47.htm jfw i have a feeling you make like the puzzle contest here if you are into combinatorics problems.
[16:03] dorion: whaack did you want to make that first pic in portrait mode or give readers a neck stretch ?
[16:03] dorion: lolz
[16:27] dorion: I see there are several such cases. In my process, I found I have to sort the landscape and portrait pics and have separate scripts for scaling them properly.
[17:17] jfw: or there's convert -auto-orient ...
[18:46] dorion: based on which proggy ? I used a gimp based script hanbot had published.
Day changed to 2025-09-25
[13:30] jfw: dorion: "convert". it's from imagemagick, per the earlier recipe from MP and http://jfxpt.com/2019/blogging-photos-and-chat-logs-some-handy-scripts/
[13:32] jfw: iirc, I worked out how to handle the aspect ratios consistently on the gimp scripting method but not an equivalent for reading the orientation meta tag(s).
[20:34] whaack: I'm confused, are the images not rotated correctly for you guys?
[20:34] whaack: I see them properly oriented on my end.
[20:36] whaack: Maybe my browser is looking at the metadata in the photo and orienting it for me?
[20:40] whaack: !e view-height
[20:40] btcexplorer: block_height: 915529
[20:40] btcexplorer: mins_since_last_block: 8178
[22:42] jfw: interesting, seems it auto-orients on the post-apocalyptic firefox but not the traditional.
[22:47] jfw: MDN will naturally say "works on all browsers".
Day changed to 2025-09-27
[18:00] caai: jwrd: as a follow up from last night, i think setting up irc servers/clients is a great idea. many people would be interested in gaining control of the data from their daily conversations.
[00:14] bob: I chose Bob for Built On Bitcoin! Is that sexy?
[13:43] dorion: hello bob, welcome. a name is what you make of it, innit ?
[15:32] bob: Correct
[15:40] dorion: bob, the first step is to make a key and register it with wotbot.
[15:40] dorion: !w help
[15:40] wotbot: Available commands: hi, help, register, up, down, key, rate, unrate, rated
Day changed to 2025-09-03
[15:39] nekoluce: hey
[15:39] nekoluce: good morning
Day changed to 2025-09-12
[23:09] jfw: ftr, both our public bitcoin nodes fell over now from overflow of disk space; looks like the debug logging finally insists on some attention along with grep.
Day changed to 2025-09-13
[01:01] jfw: for added conspiratorial fodder, the younger node failed around 22 UTC of Sept. 11. The older one, 17 UTC of Sept. 9. For some time prior, I was seeing more than usual long stuck spells with no new blocks relayed.
[08:32] lru: there is a big controversy over op_return size and the risk of arbitrary data in the blockchain... I assume your versions filter strictly
[13:19] jfw: yeah, that's the surface narrative, which doesn't make a lot of sense. http://jfxpt.com/2025/jwrd-logs-for-Aug-2025/#14781
[13:19] sourcerer: 2025-08-19 23:56:42 (#jwrd) jfw: apparently there are >1 people for whom soft-forking to force a stealth block size increase to the detriment of security, reliability, sanity, consensus, etc. is fine and dandy, but then *using* this capability for anything other than what they had in mind to use it for is evil spamming that's going to kill bitcoin
[13:28] jfw: I guess most likely one of those trendy layer-N things is generating a lot of nonstandard transactions that happen to tickle some overly verbose log messages
[13:30] jfw: though that doesn't explain who's trying to promote luke-jr from laughingstock to jesus
[17:08] dorion: knots is the proverbial tv raft.
[22:10] lru: I wondered if "Luke Dashjr" was the same as "luke-jr" I'd read about on trilema
[23:59] jfw: the same
Day changed to 2025-09-19
[23:43] whaack: !e view-height
[23:43] btcexplorer: block_height: 914921
[23:43] btcexplorer: mins_since_last_block: 5216
[23:43] whaack: recently restarted bdexplorer, should be caught up in 1-2 days
[23:50] whaack: bitcoind seems stuck tho, so we'll see later
Day changed to 2025-09-22
[00:17] jfw: !e view-height
[00:17] btcexplorer: block_height: 915121
[00:17] btcexplorer: mins_since_last_block: 6265
[17:52] dorion: !e view-height
[17:52] btcexplorer: block_height: 915144
[17:52] btcexplorer: mins_since_last_block: 7042
[17:52] dorion: still some 800+ blocks behind other sources.
[18:00] jfw: my home node got synced up yest but then filled up debug.log too. will look into patching that sooner rather than later.
[20:59] dorion: alright, sounds good.
[22:23] whaack_: restarted my node again, with flags:
[22:23] whaack_: bitcoind -daemon -permissive -logtimestamps -myip=205.134.172.28 -addnode=205.134.172.27 -addnode=54.39.156.17 -addnode=143.202.160.10 -addnode=208.94.240.42 -addnode=85.167.101.64 -addnode=94.176.238.102 -addnode=205.134.172.6 -addnode=45.11.57.212 -verifyall &
[22:24] whaack_: !e view-height
[22:24] btcexplorer: block_height: 915210
[22:24] btcexplorer: mins_since_last_block: 6651
[22:24] whaack_: looks like we're moving forward again
Day changed to 2025-09-24
[15:25] whaack: !e view-height
[15:25] btcexplorer: block_height: 915529
[15:25] btcexplorer: mins_since_last_block: 6423
[15:25] whaack: dorion: http://ztkfg.com/2025/09/philadelphia-bridge-nationals-recap/
[15:27] whaack: this guy has a nice bridge site http://www.rpbridge.net/, with https disabled! http://www.rpbridge.net/8q47.htm jfw i have a feeling you make like the puzzle contest here if you are into combinatorics problems.
[16:03] dorion: whaack did you want to make that first pic in portrait mode or give readers a neck stretch ?
[16:03] dorion: lolz
[16:27] dorion: I see there are several such cases. In my process, I found I have to sort the landscape and portrait pics and have separate scripts for scaling them properly.
[17:17] jfw: or there's convert -auto-orient ...
[18:46] dorion: based on which proggy ? I used a gimp based script hanbot had published.
Day changed to 2025-09-25
[13:30] jfw: dorion: "convert". it's from imagemagick, per the earlier recipe from MP and http://jfxpt.com/2019/blogging-photos-and-chat-logs-some-handy-scripts/
[13:32] jfw: iirc, I worked out how to handle the aspect ratios consistently on the gimp scripting method but not an equivalent for reading the orientation meta tag(s).
[20:34] whaack: I'm confused, are the images not rotated correctly for you guys?
[20:34] whaack: I see them properly oriented on my end.
[20:36] whaack: Maybe my browser is looking at the metadata in the photo and orienting it for me?
[20:40] whaack: !e view-height
[20:40] btcexplorer: block_height: 915529
[20:40] btcexplorer: mins_since_last_block: 8178
[22:42] jfw: interesting, seems it auto-orients on the post-apocalyptic firefox but not the traditional.
[22:47] jfw: MDN will naturally say "works on all browsers".
Day changed to 2025-09-27
[18:00] caai: jwrd: as a follow up from last night, i think setting up irc servers/clients is a great idea. many people would be interested in gaining control of the data from their daily conversations.